Smoking Gun? Flipped Election?

Siegelman case of...

44 AG request

Rove named... Time *
Thanks to Thom Hartmann.

Justice (documents) not delivered.

[10:30 PM As often is the case, I have not fully read the above links, but now add one I did read: U.S. Attorney Scandal -- Birmingham cont'd Harpers
found in link below]

[08-31-07 7:20 AM
PLUS an additional resource for this and other scandals -
TPMmuckraker.com]

* This is a quick summary of the Alabama controversy

THE HOPE IS YOU! ( * )

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THE 11TH HOUR
By Leonardo DiCaprio

Inspired by Thom Hartmann

"Tag, you're it!" **

Words can't do justice to this very inspiring work. Only the true cynic will not be encouraged by the "hard work" being done by so many.

* from THE 11TH HOUR trailer.
** tag line for Thom Hartmann

Bush Retreat / Fox Attack

Gonzales Departure Won't End Probes
Huffington Post

Fox News: "Hillary makes a deal with Al Qaeda" Media Matters

WRONG! What is this a competition, between Bush and Gibbons for the most ridiculous statements. Bush on "the mud" Gonzalez suffered, and Gibbons the "deal" he sees with Al Qaeda. For Gonzales there will be more mud, for Gibbons: hopefully not more signals. Let's hope he is not signalling that Hillary is not a threat to Al Queda and therefore should not deter Al Qaeda from attacking the U.S. sooner rather than later. This is the flip-flop of his flip-flop which makes more sense. But his take is a take that shifts the blame from the current administration's responsibility for failure, as usual.

[9:28 AM Thanks to Thom Hartmann for guest Marjorie Cohn: Bush's Killing Fields Counterpunch
and The Gonzales Indictment truthout.org
for even scarier discussions.

If pursuit of war crimes is not threatening enough to the administration, what about pursuit of Liebermann for Attorney General for the country? This may highlite the caution that has haunted the Democrats.]

[Former H.W. Bush justice appointee ‘looking very good.’
Think Progress Terwilliger makes Bush sense, in that he was a leader in the Florida election recount, and only cronies need apply. ]

Attorney General Gonzalez Retreats.

Congratulations Congressman Inslee.

The people have prevailed and more thanks to Daily KOS early on.

The New York Times was of help and the other Dems.
technical difficulties and other work keeps this brief
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Did Hillary Shoot Dems in the Foot?
In snooze mode this AM I heard something about a False Flag charge on the Stephanie Miller Show> Could it be this on the politics of fear? The political calculus is the fear at Rock the Truth as well.
On the strength of the comments from Democratic candidates they rate in the following order.
Kucinich: no comment. Already tough enough, already standing up.
Richardson
Edwards
Dodd
Obama: no comment?
Clinton
Standing up for what? Impeachment is the only way.
Standing up now is the way to tell who will stand up as President or is political calculus just using ones toes?

OK! This brief ramble is just about not falling for the Republican meme. Getting the message out that Democrats are not the problem and any problems will be the Republicans. Of course even in retreat, Bush blames the Democrats. See first story. Hence the need to pursue continued investigations and not let anyone off the hook.

The Big Tent vs. The Mess Tent in the Bush Bubble Error (err Era)

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Bush History Flip-FLop:
Vietnam, Korea or Japan

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What has happened.

Vietnam Flip-Flop

It is bad enough that Bush has not used the original lessons he learned about Vietnam, but now has rewritten them.

Bush's selective lessons of Vietnam. Guardian Unlimited

Even worse is any comparison to Korea. Has anyone heard of "Exit Strategy"?

There is so much to google on this, but I will risk it and list the commonly heard three lessons. 1. a defined mission 2. overwhelming force 3. having an exit strategy. So now Bush not only wants to teach US how to win Vietnam, but apparently will fix [or work on] Korea? What next, China or Saudi Arabia? [politically]

(Having consulted an expert, some doubt is cast on these lessons and any parallel, but then to him, having an exit strategy was to win the war, and in Korea [it still is to] sign a peace treaty. So I guess Bush may be working on Korea and China. [economically] I don't know if that is good news or bad news, but there may be no parallel to either or Saudi Arabia. [Note: italics bracketed provide clarity from this consultation.])

Later Reading: (no comments)

Bush draws Vietnam parallel in warning over Iraq withdrawal
Bush told he has drawn wrong lesson
Lesson of the Vietnam War
Iraq: Learning the Lessons of Vietnam

Historians Question Bush's Reading of Lessons of Vietnam War for Iraq

"Lessons of Vietnam" by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger,

[8:46 AM Out of all these links, I have read only a few pages into the last one*. In it, Kissinger himself gives a nuanced lesson which flip flops a bit in passing credit and blame. A few comments came to mind which I hope to revisit, but one note that it "prevented Indonesia from falling to the Communism and probably preserved American presence in Asia." Oh the irony, that Indonesia is now a leading Muslim nation and there is possibly more to parallel or learn.]

* [ 9:06 Further note that the piece was only a few pages.]

CIA Inspector General Report

Internal Report Faults Ex-CIA Director's Counterterrorism Efforts
Voice of America by Gary Thomas

CIA inspector's report on September 11 faults leaders Reuters
Then, to top it off, Bush ignored the Al Qaeda warning
Prairie Weather (newly googled)

The Report cia.gov

My earlier reference to The 9-11 Commission.
Set Up? Walled Excuse. The Liaison Report April 16, 2004
HISTORY A GUIDE TO LOOKING AHEAD, NOT A DISTRACTION
The Liaison Report May 4, 2004

URL ADDED: GORELICK MEMO
USDOJ.gov
PDF Jamie Gorelick, Deputy Attorney General

Flip-Flopper in Chief:
Bush to invoke Vietnam in arguing against Iraq pullout CNN.com

Earlier Flip Flop reference.

Comment: Who writes his stuff?
Another tangent: If it is Rove and we need an Unrove,
my nomination is for Brent Budowsky.

Still Buried?

THE BUSH BUBBLE!

The Bush Bubble must be popped,

BUT WITH CAUTION!

The bottom line is that the people are.

Still buried in the previous post.

I want to pull out some important pieces from the previous post.

"Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death" Consortium News
by Brent Budowsky
[ NOTE: the bold italics are sources for and serve to note the important items I pulled up]

One of the points also buried is that several talk shows are not broadcast live and hence the effect ("While I was lost...) that simultaneous work is corresponding even if I am not following them at the time. Hence the airing of Brent Budowsky as a guest on The Ed Shultz Show guest hosted by Tony Trupiano. The connection is in earlier writing of both of us, as well as the effort to get Democrats and Independents on the same page, in the most Unrovian way.

The War As We Saw It. NYT

I will tie in a few more buried pieces here as well as a new link to old matters.

"The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" versus "The Liberal Media" could be another major thread. But I did stumble on a meme that may go down in history to describe our times and the Republican follies, if I may write it. The Bush Bubble.
(was that a segue?)

[paused to post and now insert links]

When the Issue Is War, Take Nothing for Granted. NYT
(see Unrovian - link above).

Under "Hardwork" I must google "Truth boating" with caution. (see versus link above.)
[result Billionaire Speculator... found ] in The Raw Story

But now the new links:FEC Complaint filed against Fred Thompson
The old matter?
Rove -> Hillary -> Media Job -> Political violations -> Justice -> Fred Thompson ->
Comment? The timing is interesting and Rovian.
The "hard work" is to follow this at all.
The job is to:
Help provide oversight
Is there any hope?
Cheney has wiretap documents.
Special thanks to News For The Left

While I Was Lost in the Last Post

someone else was going my way.

Tony Trupiono was hosting The Ed Shultz Show
with guest, Brent Budowsky.
Where? The Republican Party being the culprit.

OK!
So he [Brent Budowsky] was already there, as that was an older post of his, which I had not run into before.

But I had been here before, and probably have linked it somewhere before.
Or so I thought, maybe not.
[8-21-07:That evening Randi Rhodes rebroadcast an interview with Brend Budowsky, possibly where I ran into it before.]

But he (Tony) talks of frustration: and as I noted as a recent picnic, this blog, The Liaison Report may be about being between Encouragement and Discouragement.

dem Brains

Bush's Brain has left the building...
Well not yet, but make sure he does not leave the country.

Think Progress
U.S. Attorney Iglesias filed complaint in April. TP
Political briefings disclosed the same month. WaPo
Mother Jones / Waxman follow up. MJ
Associated Content reports AC

THIS MONTH
McClatchy/Truth to Power Bush V. Hatch ACT!
Thanks to clipmarks CM
Rove departure GovExec
Thanks ToDay White Collar Crime Prof WCCPB
WaPo Follow Up

OTHER FRONTS
Iraq - Iran Not Pressed "informed speculation - useful for readers to know." (control F, pg.2 pressed ) NYT
More Informed Sources from the front NYT

CONNECTING THE DOTS
"who sent you there..." ?
"the George Bush empire". DigitalJournal DJ

Who got us here? (I ask)
"you forget", so says Former Republican Chair Ken Mehlman DJ
[Note the taken liberty with words.]

[Post continues, wanted to post it before I lost it.]
connecting the dots . . .
Speaking of New Fronts: all from DJ
Rove's (Evil) Twin.
(Note: Evil and Twin are redundant.)
"Rove's Good Twin" would be oxymoronic or is it Bush?
Old Front
New Front

Good News/Bad News - No Front WaPo

More links:
href="http://political_progress_for_people.blogspot.com/search?q=%22open+source%22">Open Source
Earliest Dots
ReP Brains
Bi-Cameral Brain

[Now who's gone too far? 10:18 closing post]
[10:27 AM- Just a hint... of remorse at a poor pun imbedded above.]

{11:30 This pause was to dig deeper and update some archives: In all this cutting and posting, my search was for a meme or talking point or some counter to Rove, the irony is that I may have found it in my own search under "ironic". Something to get the choir on the same page. Note the tent shape and who may not be in it, but the people are the base not just dots.]

Hard Work!

[* * * WARNING! THE FIRST LINK BELOW
AND ANY SO FLAGGED, MAY POSE DIFFICULTIES
FOR YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION
AND WHO KNOWS WHAT FUNNY BUSINESS * * *
* * * 8-20-07 CLICK IT AT YOUR OWN RISK * * * ]

Wake Up America!
* * * NOT! * * *

This is the least I can do to retract my impression which I did not really hang much on anyway.

Nevertheless, the "hard work" may need to be done but it seems that any [* * * SAME WARNING CLICK AT OWN RISK! "Truthboating" * * * ]of Hillary is a job that we must face, as well as Hillary with the truth. I am sure there is a lot in here, but then it may be part of the "vast Right Wing conspiracy", not that there is not one, nor is it any excuse.

Hitting Snooze Button

Meme or and um.

Just a little stepping back on the previous post of mine. First: it is always in the words that you find what you Google. Second: then they must still be filtered.

[ 8-20-07 * * * SEE PREVIOUS WARNING: CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK! * * * Wake Up America * * * ] caught my interest, and hit some spots that were familiar and where I often go.

The particular page on Rove and Hillary along with the new filter as I note above, Meme or and um , spells it all out. But I still have a ways to go, and it is not that clear where it is coming from. All I can say is that it is a filter. What it fertilizes is still up to the "hard work" of the people. Which is something I need to get back to... later.

[Heck: Oh and I did not even read the reference to language [8-20-07 * * * CLICK AT OWN RISK (in comments to Wake Up America) * * * ]
and ended mine on vocabulary,
but "there I go again". [[11:08 AM Re: Bill Clinton as a cuss word versus Cheney a pardon for such, is just a hint at a difference in perspectives, which I had missed earlier. "Pardon my Cheney" as in "Pardon my French."]]
Here I will preemptively hit the nail on the head.
Mother Jones, you see hints at the point in the title. Alleged White House-Petraeus Arm Wrestling Over September Report a Ruse? At least that is my point. And TYT. From other source or my general filtering, Patraeus is dancing around "the turd blossoms" of information and politics. Now I will read the report.-
Now that I have, it comports with my opinion and the facts. One thing that must be remembered, there is no obligation to tell the truth to anyone in the media. Even the media has the right to lie. And apparently in this case there may be two stories ** both in public and behind closed doors. And this goes directly back to troop involvement with the facts and whether their opinions matter, whether they are in or out of the military.]

[10:37 AM - My initial impression needs to be filtered, as now I see that Wake Up America has a perspective that still needs more sorting...]

** This is already being denied.

Borrowed Comment!

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[CAUTION NOTED 8-20-07: The first link below (Wake Up America) appears to cause my internet connection to experience difficulties when visiting it. So proceed to that link at your own risk! This is not a self-serving literary ploy. ]
* * * [The orginal post will not be touched,
See comments for anything more. 8-20-07]
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* * * Wake Up America! CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK! * * *


Coming across this blogger, by doing a Google on Military Support Bush or Military Poll to find that Karl Rove is right, there are no links to (at least easily found) showing lack of military support for Bush. * But I did not find Rove's outlandish quote that "the troops get what they want and need". It seems that justifies what the administration says if they have the same sources and carefully navigate the intelligence.

On the other hand, I found some preemptive comments that may have played a role or seen the Rove role change coming or cause it. The latter first: Take it to Karl The former earlier: Karen Hughes: Karl Rove’s Kryptonite Oops, two years too early. Seen what coming or caused?

Bush should have been awoken much earlier, and we tried. Seriously, the guest comment, not that she is aware of my blog, hit a few points, Rove, the trooops/ Iraq, and Hillary with a few good links that I have yet to read, and will save comment for later. Suffice to say that it takes some filtering of the filter and there is more than fertilizer in them there hills, or links.

Oh heck I will touch on a few: Rove is a heck of a filter of fertilizer and the media as well. His comments on the troops, and his comment on Hillary, navigate though or pile on the fertilizer to some reality. And on "the surge", another cautious step through the piles of it.

* [posted and paused to continue: granted a little more search will find more, and in fact with my sources and rambling will probably stumble on me, but the point that I was going to make before I did undue diligence and tried to find some facts, is that polling the military may give a biased result based on two aspects, the filtering of their information and their freedom. Heck, I just threw in the Google as it was really a hit.

Pardon my vocabulary, but no more from the administration. Enough!

[11:19 AM my initial intrigue with the top link was due to my own spin on Rove, Hillary and Iraq/Troop intelligence, which I wove into my commentary but which may require more "hard work" either by the viewer or as my own reviewer. * * * CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK ! hehe * * * (now that is a hint)]]

Carry On Comment!

Borrowed from an AM1090 caller to one of the afternoon talk shows, the interesting dilemma of Karl Rove is his confessing apparently...

that he has no diary or record of his work with the administration.

This with his apparent plan to write a book, means...

either he has a very good memory or it will be in the fiction section.

Actually I just rearranged the caller's comment to my own taste in my usual way.

His point was that it takes "I don't recall" and all it's variations "off the table" when it comes to congressional investigations.
I would add
the only alternative
is straight to "the pen".

More lines of investigation on Rove history
For later read, not that I have read the above.
"...who know what"
Democrats vow...
political fighter
Picking Bush's Brain ?
...avoid Capitol Hill
WaPo editorial

[pause]
Clinton, Rove's candidate in '08
U.S. Attorneys
First Read
Divider

[Having just read the last one first, it is a reminder that his nickname "turd blossom" is something that survives in a field of fertilizer.]

[Second thoughts on First Thoughts from First Read: There should NEVER be another Karl Rove. It is a cheap shot and a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to promulgate such a character [italics and link added 8-15-07]by looking for the next one.

At least they admitted that "they" (the media) create them (the turd blossoms), but of course there will be, on the Right, as several of his (Rove's) proteges are distributed amongst the Republican candidates. But on The Left there is too much distribution of brains to get away with anything like what the administration has so far distributed. Genius should be about what works, and nothing much has, with this administration, except accumulation of ruin and power. * [it.a.l.a. 8-15-07]
Shame on MSNBC for such work. There is some good news on the new Hillary ad, but to follow with a piece on Rove? And while running the bottom line, "the next Karl Rove" under "her inner Bill".]

* [8-15-07 Re: David Frum link "and power", reminiscent of Lakoff where he points out that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is that the former run to govern, and the latter govern to run. That may say as much about governing as running, and as much about the left as the right, but rather than looking for a third way in the middle of any political spectrum, maybe the perspective [way to see it] is from above the plane, while a plane requires a third perspective that is not in line.]

[ bold italics added 3-12-08]

Note to Special Interests

Re: endorsements

Why not go with the candidate that best represents your views?
Second guessing the chances of one's priorities only adds to the air of inevitability of getting second best or worse.

Try separating the primary process from the general.

On the other hand, maybe it is not so "special interest" to consider the overall picture or candidate.

[8-14-07 Buried in comment: "the common good"]

Air of Inevitability?

I do not wish to imply that it SHOULD BE, Clinton versus Thompson.
Only that if it is, that it BE a rehash of Watergate.
They both have their baggage from that era.
Thompson just noted
Hillary here:
TimesOnLine
TheStar.com

[Posted at the listed time, but continued immediately with the noted pause below]
GuardianUnlimited

TheVastRightWingCon

I am just trying to be "fair and balanced", so I must note that I have not digested all of these sources, and should warn of the potential for food poisoning on the last item. But just [the teaser] of the just prior one is intriguing (paused to read that piece):
Hillary brought to book Watergate veteran Carl Bernstein talks to James Silver about the Clintons, George Bush, and the state of the American press
Having now read it, it is recommended highly.

Just what is the difference between the "vast right wing conspiracy" and the so-called "liberal press"? Only the label. Just what is the difference between trying to rewrite the rules of impeachment and the constitution? Apparently the party and getting away with it.

[Finally concluding approximately 1 hour from original post time: normally I do not note when a post is developed in this manner.(in a sitting) But I also now proceed and borrow from the top link that:

The 2008 Race could not only rehash accountability but the media's role

I would change that to SHOULD!]

[Updated Presidential Profile: 9:20 AM - Noting that I have not put much attention to the ratings of the candidates, I now update without comment, but with an aversion to inevitability.

Kucinich
Edwards
Obama
Clark
Richardson
Clinton, Dodd, Biden
Gravel]

Pap Attack on Thompson

"He really should be the GOP's pick for president..."
"almost a true reflection of Cheney, Bush and Rove and all the other thugs..."

See my earlier link, below.
[8-12-07: OK... too embedded in that last link, "Tangents from Angler" somewhere is the implication
that the 2008 race WILL BE, Clinton versus Thompson.
Even more buried is any link to information in that regard.
Here they are.
Not all would put a heroic sheen on Thompson's Watergate role
from The Boson Globe
Fred Thompson, Nixon's Mole
from The Stump AOL News Elections Blog
The 2008 Race could not only rehash accountability but the media's role:
Also found at - (Nixon's mole)
Media Matters
No Quarter
Raw Story
Related USA Today ]
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Labels? NOT!

[The Colbert Report: The Word
The Daily Show: The president in his own words.
ifilm from SPIKE TV]

Democrats Fold / Congress Breaks

In Two.
See Eating Their Own?
Only a few words into The Daily Left News, I hit pause to make (or reprise) the above commentary.
[1:49 into it: The Democrats pass a new law on wire tapping with shared powers assigned to National Intelligence Director and Attorney General *,
but investigations are still on the table after the August break.]

[Meanwhile on The Daily Show. RFK Jr. and what ABC could show...]

[Meanwhile progress was actually made by congress.]

[8-7-07: Update - -
FISA changes accountability of sorts to be limited & reviewed
Censures at least a start
Good Questions from Jeff Cohen
* Corrected on shared powers. ]

Top To Bottom

Top of the News, Bottom of the Barrel.
What ABC could air but won't?
Greg Palast
Where you can find it.
In particular
...
Bottom Line?
U.S. Attorneys
The Point?
The Unraveling?
A Thread?
The Recount II.

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Media Whores * [4-11-07: #1 of 2]

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